kaberett: A drawing of a black woman holding her right hand, minus a ring finger, in front of her face. "Oh, that. I cut it  off." (molly - cut it off)
[personal profile] kaberett
I wish there were some productive way for me to communicate to humans at large that, if they see a lone wheelchair user Out And About, prior to approaching them they should ask themselves Two Simple Questions:

(1) Would the question I'm about to ask be kinda weird and intrusive if the wheelchair weren't present?
(2) Would I ask it anyway?

This enables people to e.g. stop and offer me a sympathetic cigarette because I'm clearly having stunningly obvious hysterics by the side of the river and have been for some time, while actively militating against... pulling their car into a lane they'd never normally be in, stopping, leaning over the empty seat to open the passenger-side door, and asking me if I'm okay.

I WAS PLAYING POKEMON.

I'M FINE.

PLEASE TELL ME WHAT GIVES YOU THE IMPRESSION THAT I'M NOT SO I CAN STOP DOING IT.

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Date: 2018-02-27 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cosmolinguist
The number of times I get stopped and asked if I'm okay when I'm, e.g. halfway across a street, halfway down a flight of stairs, etc... I feel like turning to these people and asking how they think I got out of the house and this far into my day on my own, only to suddenly become entirely reliant on them.

Not to mention that halfway across a street or down some stairs (neither of which is an exaggeration, both have happened to me) is a really bad time to interrupt or startle a white cane user who's probably concentrating on a lot more things than you are at that moment.

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Date: 2018-02-27 11:47 pm (UTC)
niqaeli: cat with arizona flag in the background (Default)
From: [personal profile] niqaeli
I tend to figure if someone is already negotiating a door, I'm likely going to just upset all their calculations if I try to get it. I figure the same for people laden with packages they're carrying as cane and wheelchair users on that one! I really don't understand what is so damned difficult about that.

On a related note: the number of people who have gotten a door for me when I've got the cane and a ton of shit I'm wrangling to boot that I then feel obliged to deal with maneuvering past them because elsewise they'll Be Aggrieved at my Lack Of Appreciation even though that whole damn thing is MUCH MORE TROUBLE than just letting me use the goddamned automated door that works JUST FINE and is LITERALLY HERE FOR THIS PRECISE PURPOSE of assisting disabled people manage doors.... is not small. And most days I really don't have the energy to deal with the Aggrieved, however transiently, sigh.

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Date: 2018-02-28 09:20 am (UTC)
lilysea: Serious (Oracle: thoughful)
From: [personal profile] lilysea
*Solidarity*

*Empathy*

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Date: 2018-02-27 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cosmolinguist
Solidarity. <3

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Date: 2018-02-28 10:40 am (UTC)
davidgillon: A pair of crutches, hanging from coat hooks, reflected in a mirror (Default)
From: [personal profile] davidgillon
Absolutely, the most useful thing in negotiating doors as a wheelie is the door itself!

A friend who uses crutches regularly has the door snatched away while the door handle is the only thing holding him up, resulting in him being left sprawled at 'helpful' person's feet.

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Date: 2018-02-28 03:26 pm (UTC)
liv: cartoon of me with long plait, teapot and purple outfit (mini-me)
From: [personal profile] liv
This is the one that I always have trouble with. Asking someone 'do you need a hand?' is absolutely something I would do if the person wasn't visibly disabled, and they were navigating through a tricky door or carrying an awkward amount of stuff. But if I ask someone in wheelchair whether they need help that might come across as patronizing, or a gratitude demanding micro-aggression, or indeed interrupt them in the middle of a manoeuvre and make things worse. So in that sense the Two Simple Questions don't get me anywhere: it wouldn't be weird or intrusive if I offered minor practical help to an apparently able-bodied person, and I would ask the question anyway, because I (another able-bodied person) would want to be helped if I didn't have enough free hands to get myself and my stuff through a door.

I guess the best plan is for me to file 'do you need help?' as an exception to the Two Simple Questions rule, because it's a case where treating disabled people 'just like anyone else' is in fact detrimental.

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Date: 2018-03-01 05:10 pm (UTC)
sporky_rat: It's a rat!  With stars!  It's ME! (rat with stars)
From: [personal profile] sporky_rat
For me, anybody who has both hands full gets asked if they need a hand with a non-automatic door, full stop. If they don't, cool. If so, cool. Then again, I frequently use a cane and therefore fall into both categories, so....

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Date: 2018-03-03 09:43 pm (UTC)
jesse_the_k: Text: "backbutton > wank / true story" with left arrow button (Back better than wank)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
Just want to underline the it's fine if you'll actually accept a no!

Something about this year it seems like more people are actually asking me, and when I say, "Nope, I've got this" they're "Cool" and no micro-aargh and all is well.

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Date: 2018-02-28 10:37 am (UTC)
davidgillon: A pair of crutches, hanging from coat hooks, reflected in a mirror (Default)
From: [personal profile] davidgillon
The guy who threw himself in front of me on a flight of stairs so he could open the door for me was a personal favourite.

I challenged him on it and he insisted he had been right to do it.

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Date: 2018-02-28 01:18 am (UTC)
ninetydegrees: Art: self-portrait (Default)
From: [personal profile] ninetydegrees
Perfect title for your next book.

Excellent advice, thank you.

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Date: 2018-02-28 09:13 am (UTC)
lilysea: Serious (Oracle: wheelchair fighting)
From: [personal profile] lilysea
Oh, ye fishes and little gods, YES, THIS!

I once had a dodgy-looking[1] couple approach me while I was waiting to cross at the traffic lights and ask me if I was ok and needed help.

Help with what, exactly? I'd pressed the crosswalk button, and was waiting for the crosswalk lights to turn green...

Then later on, I passed them on the footpath while they were sitting on a park bench, and they again asked if I was ok and needed help, with... ?going along a perfectly normal footpath?

Both encounters left me feeling
skeeved out
threatened
scared.

[1] By which I mean body language, facial expression, tone of voice that made me feel they were unsafe/had a high probability of touching me or my powerchair without asking first.

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Date: 2018-02-28 10:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aldabra
Pokemon: I wonder whether this comes across as mapreading but then inexplicably going off in weird directions for short periods of time to people who haven't come across it.

I wouldn't expect to have enough time to parse it like that if I was driving, though. I guess I do particularly notice people doing odd things, in case the next odd thing they do is walk into the road. But I don't think I'd stop except for obvious distress or an unaccompanied toddler. (I wonder if I would be more likely to if I was male?)

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Date: 2018-02-28 03:07 pm (UTC)
silveradept: A kodama with a trombone. The trombone is playing music, even though it is held in a rest position (Default)
From: [personal profile] silveradept
That is an entirely useful metric for everyone. It would be nice if it were just part of being socialized, but...

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Date: 2018-02-28 06:16 pm (UTC)
alexseanchai: Katsuki Yuuri wearing a blue jacket and his glasses and holding a poodle, in front of the asexual pride flag with a rainbow heart inset. (Default)
From: [personal profile] alexseanchai
^

:(

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Date: 2018-02-28 04:47 pm (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly

PLEASE TELL ME WHAT GIVES YOU THE IMPRESSION THAT I'M NOT SO I CAN STOP DOING IT.


I think the problem is you exist as a visibly disabled person. I don't know if you particularly want to stop existing.

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Date: 2018-02-28 06:18 pm (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
Sorry. Sucky, intrusive people are just going to... be like that.

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Date: 2018-03-03 09:47 pm (UTC)
jesse_the_k: Six silver spoons with enamel handles (fancy ass spoons)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
Just two questions!

As usual, so well put.

There's a kernel of an essay I haven't been able to write for years, so maybe you could use it? So many people have been schooled on "helping the handicapped" that a visibly disabled person becomes a "help object." That we have to deal with "help objectification," as women have to deal with "sex objectification."

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