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With gratitude to [personal profile] vass, courtesy of mentioning that during teaching this week I'd had to explain some of Excel's... less helpful... proclivities: Scientists rename human genes to stop Microsoft Excel from misreading them as dates.

With gratitude to [personal profile] me_and: perpetualBrownian motion machine.

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Date: 2020-11-19 02:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sebenikela
sincere question (because truly, excel is the worst): what do you use instead for viewing/editing csv files?

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Date: 2020-11-19 04:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ewx
Good question.

CSVs from my banks go into a spreadsheet (specifically LibreOffice but that's not really any better than Excel), but bank accounts are one of the few things where spreadsheets actually make some sense; they have dates in weird formats that I'm glad the spreadsheet can turn into ISO8601, and otherwise very simple text and numbers, and are structured in a way that the 2D nature of a spreadsheet works nicely with.

Otherwise, in my life, structured data tends to end up in a database, or a data structure in a Python script, or something like that. (For any given user and application there might be better choices, those are just the easiest tools for me specifically to reach for.)

I appreciate that not everyone wants to deal with programming languages for managing data, leaving a gap for "simple data processing that doesn't suck".

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Date: 2020-11-20 04:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sebenikela
Yeah, my use case for Excel/LibreOffice and csvs is "I have this data that I will be processing in R/python/whatever, I would like to look at it in spreadsheet form (ie not in a text editor)" (sometimes also "manually entering data for later processing")

and it'd be really nice to have software that could guarantee I could do that *without changing the data in any way*

AND YET!

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