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Okay, for future reference, even if I say I don't want warnings, I am lying if the thing you want to warn me about is SURPRISE TRANSPHOBIA BEFORE PAGE TEN. Especially when for bonus lulz it is PLOT-IRRELEVANT TRANSPHOBIA.

Wow. WOW.

Hello,

you all seem like proper awesome types, so I'm hoping that by e-mailing this address the concrit can get passed on to the appropriate people! :-)

Background: I'm a trans* person and my university's trans* rep; I recently bought the eARC of Captain Vorpatril's Alliance.

I've previously really adored the Vorkosiverse in part because of how well it handles queer, trans*, disabled etc characters (I'm all of the above!), how accurate the science is, and so on - I'm a scientist & I am always overjoyed to get to read hard SF that doesn't act like I'm, well, an alien in the bad sense.

So I was very, VERY shocked to find some egregious (and apparently plot-irrelevant!) transphobia within the first ten pages of CVA. The passage I'm concerned about is:
"I am fairly certain she's a real girl, Ivan."
"You think? With you, one never knows." He eyed By dryly, and By had the grace to squirm just a bit, in acknowledgement of his cousin Dono nee Donna of lamented memory. Donna, that is. Count Dono Vorrutyer was all too vivid a presence, on the Vorbarr Sultana political scene.

There's a number of problems with this:
(1) By's line, taken in isolation, suggests that trans women aren't "real" women.
(2) Ivan's line slightly salvages this - by acknowledging that trans men aren't women. HOWEVER:
(3) "nee" is the feminine. Using "nee" to discuss a trans man is incredibly undermining. I appreciate that a lot of the time people don't bother preserving the distinction - but I tripped HARD over it here, given the preceding lines. In this context, that distinction is important.
(4) Dono is being "outed" in a way that is (so far) plot-irrelevant - and is lampshaded in the very next line as irrelevant! That is, attention is being drawn to Dono's trans status for no obvious reason other than to treat him as a joke while the "real men" talk. I don't see any way that this is justifiable, and it made my skin crawl.
(5) There is no POSSIBLE way in which By is responsible for his cousin's transition. Implying that he is, again for the sake of a bad "joke", is really, really gross - and treats Dono's transition as a bad thing.


Basically, there's an awful lot wrong with those six lines and it's massively soured my appreciation for a book I was so excited about that I spent $15 on the eARC (I don't currently have any source of income, and bought it as a treat for myself after a really rough week). I've reached out to my friends to ask if there's anything similar in the rest of the book, because I can't continue reading knowing that I might be surprised like that again.

You're all great; you've historically been fabulous at this sort of thing; I would be eternally grateful if you fixed this before the final manuscript goes to print, and if you let me know what action you were planning to take.

Yours sincerely,
-alex.

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Date: 2012-09-04 10:35 am (UTC)
azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
*nods* I guess we wait and see.

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Date: 2012-09-04 10:47 am (UTC)
lannamichaels: Astronaut Dale Gardner holds up For Sale sign after EVA. (Default)
From: [personal profile] lannamichaels
The authorial voice also uses "it" as a pronoun.


I've reached out to my friends to ask if there's anything similar in the rest of the book, because I can't continue reading knowing that I might be surprised like that again.

There's pronoun fail for Dono later in CVA.
Edited Date: 2012-09-04 10:49 am (UTC)

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Date: 2012-09-04 11:10 am (UTC)
lannamichaels: Astronaut Dale Gardner holds up For Sale sign after EVA. (Default)
From: [personal profile] lannamichaels
Fuckhell. I thought she'd handled using "it" as a pronoun for Betan herms with as much grace as could be expected following the initial horror, and had been recommending her on those grounds.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I don't recall off-hand if "it" gets used in CVA. I was referring to past books as what the authorial voice has done.

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